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  Traptism

  by Alfred in

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  2. beliefs

  just viewed this interesting video on youtube... thought i'd share.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7levkjddng.

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  Old Navy

  Really well done! He's an able and capable spokesman for TTATT.

  Hits that proverbial nail smack on its head too. For the WTBorg Cult Inc., baptism is indeed a trap.
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  What’s The Strangest Belief of Jehovah’s Witnesses?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there’s a lot.

  i think one strange view is how only 144000 go to heaven.

  since the number is mentioned in the symbolic book of revelation, you would expect that the number would be viewed as figurative, but jws say otherwise.

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  I agree, there are so many of their teachings which are strangely exclusive.

  One that I never believed is that the WTB&TS is God's chosen earthly organization.

  Another that I never believed is that only Jws will be "saved" and all others are doomed to eternal destruction.

  Actually, I wasn't alone. I knew other witnesses who doubted those teachings as well. Back when the thinking ability of most witnesses wasn't as strongly controlled and discouraged as it has become nowadays.
  
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  Hello Again

  by everbrighterhal in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i'm sorry if this is in the wrong category!

  i am formerly adimmedlight, or something close to that.

  i have been lurking here a few years now and while i did make an account before, i used a fake email (i no longer remember it, since it was made only to log in the one time i posted.. )because i was so paranoid people in my home town would discover me and "out" me.

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  Old Navy

  Welcome Hal! You're on your way!

  Your facebook page is very positive.
  
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  Is Trump the President of Jerusalem too?

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  your thoughts...how is it that trump can dictate what goes on in other countries?

  can anyone from another country come here and tell us what to do...trump is now the president of the world now, uh?.

  i'm not really savvy regarding politics but i'm no dummy either...what the heck is going on in the world.... again, any thoughts ?

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  Old Navy

  Quote from _Morpheus:
  

  Also, from someone who lives in the nations capitol, common usage here is either/or. Im not saying its “correct” but its reality, even in newspapers, to conflate the two.
  

  Aye, that is precisely how languages are changed by incorrect usage becoming the "new normal."

  Et Cetera (etc.) in earlier times was rarely incorrectly abbreviated, but today it is very common to see ect. instead. Correct grammar and correct spelling are going the way of the unicorn since the West's embrace of mediocrity.

  What is happening on the World Scene regarding Trump's Jerusalem Executive Order is quite interesting.

  Comments on the fate of Jerusalem:

  https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/12-2017/comments-on-the-fate-of-jerusalem/

  An Israeli view of Trump's Jerusalem decision:

  https://gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2017/12-2017/an-israeli-view-of-trumps-jerusalem-decision/

  Trump's Evangelical Support Group is very pleased with his decision as they believe it will hasten Armageddon and all that follows. The Middle East may soon go very hot.
  
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  Is Trump the President of Jerusalem too?

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  your thoughts...how is it that trump can dictate what goes on in other countries?

  can anyone from another country come here and tell us what to do...trump is now the president of the world now, uh?.

  i'm not really savvy regarding politics but i'm no dummy either...what the heck is going on in the world.... again, any thoughts ?

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  Is Trump the President of Jerusalem too?

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  your thoughts...how is it that trump can dictate what goes on in other countries?

  can anyone from another country come here and tell us what to do...trump is now the president of the world now, uh?.

  i'm not really savvy regarding politics but i'm no dummy either...what the heck is going on in the world.... again, any thoughts ?

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  Old Navy

  Quote from The Grammarist Source:
  

  As a noun, capital refers to (1) a city that serves as a center of government, (2) wealth in the form of money or property, and (3) a capital letter. As an adjective, it means (1) principal, (2) involving financial assets, and (3) deserving of the death penalty. There are other definitions of capital, but these are the most commonly used ones.

  Capitol has two very specific definitions (outside ancient Rome): (1) a U.S. state legislature building, and (2) the U.S. Capitol building in Washington, D.C. State capitols are located in the capital cities of U.S. states, and the Capitol is located in the capital city of the U.S. If you’re not talking about any of these capitol buildings, then the word you want is probably capital.

  The Capitol building located in Washington, D.C. is spelled with a capital C, but state capitol buildings ordinarily don’t have the capital C (which is not to say that some writers don’t capitalize them anyway).

  It is always nice to know when there is a difference.
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  Is Trump the President of Jerusalem too?

  by tor1500 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  your thoughts...how is it that trump can dictate what goes on in other countries?

  can anyone from another country come here and tell us what to do...trump is now the president of the world now, uh?.

  i'm not really savvy regarding politics but i'm no dummy either...what the heck is going on in the world.... again, any thoughts ?

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  Old Navy

  There will no doubt be a very heated reaction to Trump's declaration.

  Prophecy tells us that Jerusalem will be utterly destroyed. Perhaps we'll see it happen in the not too distant future.

  Apparently Damascus is prophesied to suffer the same fate. The beating of the War Drums has been fairly constant for the past several years.
  
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  Where in the bible does it say that the governments will turn on the religions. Like the Dubs always say this will happen

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i have not been here in a while, just trying to move on with my life all the while dealing with a very pimi brainwashed wife.. so the other day she started saying that we will have to go our own ways when things get worse with this world.

  she has said this before because she believes that the government will turn on religion and the great and powerful wizards (guardians of doctrine g.o.d.

  ) will call everyone and tell them where to go.. thank god, (no pun intended) i have been out of the loop for such a long time.

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  Old Navy

  Quote from Smiddy3:
  

  Jehovah`s Witnesses assume that if BTG goes and destroys false religion then they will come after them ,however the Bible does not say that.

  I agree. It's more like Babylon the Great will strive to stamp out Christianity as it establishes its Official Religion in the usual Babylonian and Roman fashion as before. The Cult of JW.Borg somehow have concocted the doctrine that they'll be the One True Worship remaining at that time. True Worship the JW.Borg is not, but if they're intending to be "the winner" then they may in fact be connected to Babylon the Great.

  Their Doctrine and Dogma certainly are very much Babylonish.
  
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  What is the benifits to living forever?

  by Jayk in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  can anyone give me a valid reason for it?

  growing old is a drag.

  the witnesses idea of ever lasting life, that you will come back to your most youthful state is such a bs answer..

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  WeatherLover,

  Well said. Science has neither the skills nor the capabilities. But the Dynamic Duo and the Forces of Good do. As you wish shall be accomplished. And the really great thing is that everybody is included! Not one will be forgotten or left out.

  We must of necessity experience the "sleep of death" on the way. But the inconvenience will be worth it.
  
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  What Makes Someone Become a JW?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my excuse is that i was born in the religion.

  but if someone wasn’t, why would they become one?.

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  Old Navy

  I became aware of the witnesses while in high school. One of my classmates was a witness and was a pretty cool guy; he had a worldly girlfriend (a classmate), he had a car, he seemed really knowledgeable about the Bible and he was popular. He seemed very much like all of my other classmates who were Christian except that he was much more familiar with the Bible.

  I expressed an interest in the religion and he sorta took me under his wing and introduced me to his family, invited me to visit the Kingdom Hall and provided transportation since I had no car and lived in a rural area. I was very positively impressed by the people in the congregation, the heavy use of the Bible in all discussions, talks and studies and also was comfortable with the young people in the congregation many of whom were my age and there were some really attractive young ladies there too.

  I was "love-bombed" and fell under their "spell." Their very cleverly executed program of deception created the impression in my mind that they were exceptional Christians who took the Bible seriously.

  At the same time, once my family discovered that I had joined them, they began to "oppose" what I had done and at every opportunity tried valiantly to "wake me up" to the possibility that the witnesses were a cult and weren't what they seemed. The pastor at the church I had previously attended met with me on several occasions to try to warn me, several of my schoolteachers also spoke with me numerous times to try to warn me, but I guess everyone here knows how that goes... It just stiffened my resolve to stay with the witnesses. At least for that time being.

  Then I gradually began to notice things and slowly got the feeling that "something" was just not right. I began to have doubts and after about a year and a half just dropped out. The congregation by that time was well aware of the "opposition" I was experiencing so apparently they decided to let me be. I wasn't taking any chances though so joined the Navy to get away for a time to clear my head and decide what to do next.

  My first impressions were very strong and very positive which set the "hook." After several months of association and meetings I began to realize that I didn't go along with many of their teachings. I was already baptized and considered to be a "witness" even though at that time (1957-1958) baptisms were much different than now and it was spontaneous at the assembly: no "candidacy" and no waiting - instant baptism in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.

  My escape was much easier by several orders of magnitude that what most here have suffered. Even then, it took many years to unravel the level of indoctrination from my quite brief association. It was only after I retired from the Navy and associated with the witnesses once again to more thoroughly explore their teachings and procedures that I acquired an in depth comprehension of their fear based control tactics and finally saw what their game was.

  Freedom is very, very nice. I have the utmost respect for all who've managed to escape from The Cult in far more difficult circumstances than my own very painless experience. Looking back, I am very grateful for all who "opposed" my joining the witnesses by taking the time to warn me and to plant those wonderful seeds of doubt while encouraging me to find out who they really are. It took many years but I never forgot their concerns.